Torpedoing Helens?

[Coach Z]

I never realized that Helens could carry torpedoes!
On February 28th, 1943 several Helens in conjunction with several bomb ladden Sally's & Helens attack a British TF 240 miles west of Tavoy.

Day Air attack on TF at 24,37

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 20
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 24
Ki-49 Helen x 35

Allied aircraft
Wildcat V x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 29 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Victorious, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Valiant, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Birmingham
CL Sumatra
CL Tromp
CA Frobisher

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet

[flaggelant]

are you playing a mod or stock?

[Misconduct]

Yeah it must be a mod, Stock would not have Ki-49's carrying Torpedoes, although it could very well carry a torpedo as the maximum load is 2,200lbs, but I don't recall any times it ever has. 

[Coach Z]

Sorry Guys NO MOD ...STOCK Turning Point Scenario!

[rominet]

ORIGINAL: Coach Z

I never realized that Helens could carry torpedoes!
On February 28th, 1943 several Helens in conjunction with several bomb ladden Sally's & Helens attack a British TF 240 miles west of Tavoy.

Day Air attack on TF at 24,37

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 20
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 24
Ki-49 Helen x 35

Allied aircraft
Wildcat V x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 29 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Victorious, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Valiant, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Birmingham
CL Sumatra
CL Tromp
CA Frobisher

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet

Did you ever divide your Helen's unit in 3 fragments A, B ,C and recombine it later?

[flaggelant]

rominet, do you know something we dont?? [X(]

[Coach Z]

ORIGINAL: rominet

Did you ever divide your Helen's unit in 3 fragments A, B ,C and recombine it later?

Nope!

[rominet]

ORIGINAL: flaggelant

rominet, do you know something we dont?? [X(]

I don't know but recently, i had a strange bug.
I discovered that many of my fighter groups had not the good weapons.
I show you some screens:


Good A6M2

Bad A6M2


Good A6M3

Bad A6M3


Good Oscar

Bad Oscar


Good Tojo

Bad Tojo

My opinion is that this bug may appear when i recombine the 3 fragment A/B/C in 1 unit. Sometimes (i don't know why only sometimes), the change in weapons appears.

And it occured at least once with a bomber unit.
One day, i discovered that one of my Lily II unit (upgraded from Lily I) had 3x250kg bombs. It shouln't.
In my game, the Lily II must have 8x100kg bombs.
I was surprised. But now, i understand.

Perhaps the Helen had the same trouble.[&:]

[rominet]

ORIGINAL: Coach Z

ORIGINAL: rominet

Did you ever divide your Helen's unit in 3 fragments A, B ,C and recombine it later?

Nope!

Has your Helen's unit been upgraded from an other plane or not?

[Coach Z]

Has your Helen's unit been upgraded from an other plane or not?
[/quote]

Yes they were upgraded, but they upgraded from LILLYs to HELENs.