Kamakazi attacks always have ground losses

[JohnDillworth]

Every time there is a kamikaze attack there are ground losses on both sides. Why is that:


Morning Air attack on TF, near Aogashima at 116,66

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 51 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N2 Kate x 27
B6N2a Jill x 2
D3A2 Val x 27
Ki-84a Frank x 9



Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 4
Hellcat F.II x 2
Seafire L.III x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 213
F6F-3 Hellcat x 28
F6F-5 Hellcat x 394


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 14 destroyed
B6N2a Jill: 1 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 14 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Shangri-La

Japanese ground losses:
4849723 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 0 (0 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1835008 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 0 (0 destroyed, 0 disabled)


CAP engaged:
VF-1 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 21 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
VBF-1 with F4U-1D Corsair (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
VF-3 with F6F-5 Hellcat (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VBF-3 with F4U-1D Corsair (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
VF-6 with F6F-5 Hellcat (6 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VBF-6 with F4U-1D Corsair (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F6F-5 Hellcat (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
VBF-8 with F4U-1D Corsair (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
VF-9 with F6F-5 Hellcat (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 14 being recalled, 10 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-10 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 13 being recalled, 13 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
VBF-10 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-11 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 18 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VBF-11 with F4U-1D Corsair (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-13 with F6F-5 Hellcat (4 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-14 with F6F-5 Hellcat (12 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VBF-14 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-16 with F6F-5 Hellcat (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 13 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-71 with F6F-5 Hellcat (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 16 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
VF-82 with F6F-5 Hellcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 15 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VBF-82 with F4U-1D Corsair (4 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 15 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers

[michaelm75au]

Looks like a bug as there are no actual ground devices mentioned as being destroyed or disabled.
This has cropped up before from memory in other combats not related to Kamikazes.

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[JohnDillworth]

Latest beta patch, but behavior was the same in the last version. Save attached 4 CV TF's near japan send em close and the kamikazes will come.

[michaelm75au]

Found this issue.
There was a larger than expected number of groups involved in the combat. It overflowed into the reported causalities section of the report.
Fixed for next release of Beta3.

[JohnDillworth]

Thanks, Yeah Allies already won this one. I am testing strategies for dealing with Kamakazes near the home islands. Still no luck with the massed carriers, in the end if you get close enough they wear you down and get through. I'll figure it out
thanks for checking this