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Now a very stupid question: How do you guys manage to get these quotes in such a nice white rectangle?
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If you just want to quote part of a post, highlight the text, copy it to the clipboard and select reply. The highlighted text will apear in a quote box in the new posting.

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Even easier - just highlight and hit "reply". No need to copy to clipboard (at least for me)
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Even easier - just highlight and hit "reply". No need to copy to clipboard (at least for me)

Will it work??

Check via preview.

And yes, it works. Even for me.
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You can also click on the 'quote' button in the row of buttons above the text box when you are typing in your message. This is useful when you paste information that you want to be set off if the white background quote-box.
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v1084 - Unit 4293 - 34th BG / HQ Sqn - This unit has no W/D requirement.
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On the Air Unit Information screen just above the commander is a listing of major skills such as Air, Defense, Strafing... It looks to me that these are the air commander skills and that it is always "None" unless the commander is also one of the pilots. Is this correct or will the major skills eventually fill in for all commanders? Also, in what ways do these skills help the air unit?
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Wrong thread, deleted.
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Simple question

I started a new PBEM second Scenario . Something confuses me while I try to plan a radical change in figter production. I am not sure to invest heavily on N1K1 -George. It seem a good plane but how about how many air groups I can convert to N1K1 if I spend alot of R&D for it .
On Air group reinforcement screen there is four group. Where can find that how many air groups will I be able to convert.

I cannot find it in Witpstaff or in scenario editor.

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Simple question

I started a new PBEM second Scenario . Something confuses me while I try to plan a radical change in figter production. I am not sure to invest heavily on N1K1 -George. It seem a good plane but how about how many air groups I can convert to N1K1 if I spend alot of R&D for it .
On Air group reinforcement screen there is four group. Where can find that how many air groups will I be able to convert.

I cannot find it in Witpstaff or in scenario editor.
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There appears to be 2 x WCDR R.N. Batesons...

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No RNZAF Hudsons were on Fiji at the beginning of the war.

Here is the quote from the Official History:

"On the day Japan entered the war, the RNZAF's first-line aircraft comprised 36 Hudsons, 35 Vincents, and 2 Singapore flying boats. Of these, six Vincents and the Singapores were in Fiji. Second-line aircraft, mostly used by the training organisation and available for operational use in emergency, comprised the following:

62 Harvards
46 Hinds
143 Oxfords
26 Vildebeestes
30 Gordons
13 Vincents
221 Tiger Moths
7 Multi-engined civil types (including 3 in Fiji)
20 Miscellaneous light aircraft (including 1 in Fiji)
1 Walrus amphibian

Personnel strength on the same date was 10,500 in New Zealand and 450 in Fiji."



Later in the Chapter there is a situation for 20 February 1942. I quote:

"On 20 February the operational strength of the RNZAF was: No. 1 GR Squadron stationed at Whenuapai, with 8 + 4 Hudsons;1 No. 2 GR Squadron at Nelson with 8 + 3 Hudsons; No. 3 GR Squadron at Harewood with 10 + 5 Vincents; No. 7 GR Squadron, which had recently been formed at Waipapakauri, with 12 + 6 Vincents; No. 4 GR Squadron at Nandi, Fiji, with 6 + 3 Hudsons; No. 5 Squadron, also in Fiji, with 4 + 2 Vincents. In addition No. 5 Squadron had three of the Short Singapore flying boats which had been flown out from Malaya at the end of 1941.2 These were old and in poor condition, but could be used for operations if required. This gave a total first-line aircraft strength of 32 Hudsons and 39 Vincents.

The training organisation had the following second-line aircraft which could be available in case of emergency: 4 Vincents, 61 Oxfords, 45 Harvards, 9 Fairey Gordons and 15 Hawker Hinds, giving a total of 134."


The Hudsons were sent to Fiji in early February.

"The most vital link in the defensive chain was Fiji. If the enemy established himself there he could dominate the whole of the South Pacific and would be in a position to launch an attack against New Zealand. New Zealand had done what it could to reinforce the colony by sending all its anti-aircraft artillery and a fair proportion of the available Hudsons, but the defences in the first few weeks of 1942 were much too weak to withstand a major attack.

Early in February a detachment of six Hudsons from No. 2 Squadron was sent to Fiji temporarily to strengthen the air defences in the face of what appeared to be an imminent threat of attack. They arrived on 11 February and were attached to No. 4 Squadron at Nandi."



URL: http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2AirF-c9.html and http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2AirF-c10.html




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OK, I've noticed that the Wirraway is now classified as a LB vice FB as it was in WITP...  This leaves the Aussies without ANY fightersupport whatsoever until the Boomerang shows up...

Was this the error I believe it to be, or do I need to be enlightened?  (I did find the editor, thanks!)

Luv the game so far -- cheers,
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ORIGINAL: faraonej

OK, I've noticed that the Wirraway is now classified as a LB vice FB as it was in WITP...  This leaves the Aussies without ANY fightersupport whatsoever until the Boomerang shows up...

Was this the error I believe it to be, or do I need to be enlightened?  (I did find the editor, thanks!)

Luv the game so far -- cheers,
JF
Not an error.
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OK... so lacking enlightenment, I sought my own...

"opondetta, Papua, 1942-12-12. Two RAAF Wirraway aircraft stand on the grass shortly after landing close together at Popondetta airstrip. Before Wirraway A2-103 (left) had come to a complete stop, its pilot, Pilot Officer (PO) J. S. Archer, had leapt from the aircraft and run across to the Control Tent where he had found the Control Officer talking to NX34655 Captain Alan Oliver Watson, Dental Officer with the 2/4th Field Ambulance. Puffing hard, PO Archer exclaimed excitedly, 'Sir, sir, I think I've shot down a Zero!' To this the Control Officer replied, 'Don't be silly, Archer, Wirraways can't shoot down Zeros.' 'Well, sir,' continued Archer, 'I went in to look at the wreck off Gona and I saw this thing in front of me and it had red spots on it, so I gave it a burst and it appeared to fall into the sea.' Within a few minutes, a dozen telephone calls from observers all around the Gona area confirmed Archer's story. While on a tactical reconnaissance mission over the Japanese ship wrecked in the sea off Gona, Archer and his observer, Sergeant J.F. Coulston, had sighted the Zero 1,000 feet below. After diving on the Japanese aircraft, they had fired a long burst into it with the Wirraway's two Vickers .303 machine guns, causing the Zero to crash into the sea. Archer was later awarded the DFC for his exploit. (Donor A. Watson)"  from http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-air ... rraway.htm

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The USAAF has several fighters/fighter-bombersequipped with cameras fro tac recon work (the F-6D, P-39N2, etc.) but they show up as fighter or fighter-bomber units in the game, so they don't have a recon mission option.  Does the camera actually do any good for raising detection levels if they're flying non-recon missions?
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ORIGINAL: faraonej

OK, I've noticed that the Wirraway is now classified as a LB vice FB as it was in WITP...  This leaves the Aussies without ANY fightersupport whatsoever until the Boomerang shows up...

Was this the error I believe it to be, or do I need to be enlightened?  (I did find the editor, thanks!)

Luv the game so far -- cheers,
JF

The Aussies get three squadrons of P-40s and three of Spitfires in 1942 before the Boomerang starts to arrive. The Boomerang was actually used as a FAC and close air support aircraft, rather than as a fighter
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The USAAF has several fighters/fighter-bombersequipped with cameras fro tac recon work (the F-6D, P-39N2, etc.) but they show up as fighter or fighter-bomber units in the game, so they don't have a recon mission option.  Does the camera actually do any good for raising detection levels if they're flying non-recon missions?

I had the same problem and got answers to it in an earlier thread. The deal is this: the code is written so that if the camera device has an effect > 0 then the air unit will have a Recon mission option. In the original release the cameras in those fighters and fighter-bombers had effect = 0. This was fixed in the patch.

If you install the patch and upgrade the data stuff when you then load your save game it should fix the problem. It did for me.
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ORIGINAL: witpqs

I had the same problem and got answers to it in an earlier thread. The deal is this: the code is written so that if the camera device has an effect > 0 then the air unit will have a Recon mission option. In the original release the cameras in those fighters and fighter-bombers had effect = 0. This was fixed in the patch.

If you install the patch and upgrade the data stuff when you then load your save game it should fix the problem. It did for me.

Thanks, I'll try that.
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When an airgroup upgrades to a different plane type, are all the old planes suppose to return to the pool?

I have noticed a number of times where they do not - but not always. At first I thought it might be a supply issue similar to being able to disband a unit an have the planes return to the pool. But I just upgraded a Marine VMSB unit from one type of dive bomber to another and the old type *did not* return to the pool. The unit was at San Diego with over 100k supplies.

So is this intended? Do they show up later? Or is this a bug?

Thanks in advance.

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I have noticed a number of times where they do not - but not always. At first I thought it might be a supply issue similar to being able to disband a unit an have the planes return to the pool. But I just upgraded a Marine VMSB unit from one type of dive bomber to another and the old type *did not* return to the pool. The unit was at San Diego with over 100k supplies.

Chad

There can be a delay.
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There can be a delay.

Variable upon . . . ? But should they all arrive? Reason I ask is I want to double check in my game that its WAD.

Thanks for the reply.

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