Arty can't bombard?

[pad152]

How come bombardment is grayed out for this unit? Yet it can do a shock attack?
It's in a hex with an enemy unit, in combat mode, and supply.

[Terminus]

And the 75mm GMC halftrack is not an indirect-fire artillery piece, and therefore can't bombard.

[Gilbert]

Maybe because support is under the minimum requirement ?

Gilbert

[Dili]

The confusion with unit classification rears its ugly head. I guess those were the 75mm employed for AT work.

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: Gilbert

Maybe because support is under the minimum requirement ?

Gilbert

The reason is the one I give above.

[pad152]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

And the 75mm GMC halftrack is not an indirect-fire artillery piece, and therefore can't bombard.

Maybe the unit is miss named, and should be the "2nd Provisional SPM Brigade"?
The device 75mm GMC halftrack maybe should be classified as a tank destroyer?

2nd Provisional SPM Brigade

The GMC M3 was the most widely-deployed tank destroyer

"Confronted with an impending war with Japan, 75 GMC M3's and T12's, termed "Self-Propelled Mount" (SPM) halftracks, were shipped to the Philippine Islands in September 1941 to form the (2nd) Provisional SPM Brigade. These vehicles saw action during the Japanese invasion of the Philippines, and some were later captured by the Japanese and used against U.S. forces in 1944.[5]"

source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_GMC

[Cap Mandrake]

It is really more a direct fire, low-velocity, infantry support gun....but it would likely squash a Jap tankette like a bug with one direct hit.

Another example of why this is a serious grognard game. From the name of the unit and the icon it would be tough to tell.

[Terminus]

This is an AFV, not an artillery piece. The end.

[Gilbert]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: Gilbert

Maybe because support is under the minimum requirement ?

Gilbert

The reason is the one I give above.

Thanks Terminus, I was replying at the same time you did[:)]. However, I don't see any indication on the unit screen saying it's a DF unit and not an IND one but I guess type is given in unit database.

Regards

Gilbert

[Justascratch]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but is Terminus trying to say that the 75mm GMC halftrack is not an indirect-fire artillery piece, but is instead an AFV and therefore can't participate in bombardment? Just checking cuz he wasn't very clear on this point. (hee hee)

[Cap Mandrake]

Well....it sure aint infantry...and it would be a stretch to call it amored...maybe it should be an AT unit.

[pad152]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

This is an AFV, not an artillery piece. The end.

Then maybe it shouldn't be in an Arty unit! or the Arty unit is miss named! Take your pick!

[Dili]

This is an AFV, not an artillery piece. The end.

Hehe so what are:

T 19 105mm HMC SP
M 7 Priest SP
T 30 75mm HMC SP
M 8 HMC SP

[:D]

T12 is the artillery version, but apparently there wasn't any relevant difference between it and M3. Both had a copy of famous French 1897 gun and range was 8km when in artillery mode.

[Mynok]

Field artillery units were not composed strictly of indirect-fire, towed artillery.

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Well....it sure aint infantry...and it would be a stretch to call it amored...maybe it should be an AT unit.

And there's no such thing in AE. It's either Armored or Artillery.

[Kwik E Mart]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

This is an AFV, not an artillery piece. The end.

in that case, i would change the unit icon nato symbology thingy from an artillery unit to an armored unit....

[Houtje]

unit designations aside, doesn't the fact that the unit has 'Guns:0' imply that it cannot bombard?

[Blackhorse]

ORIGINAL: pad152

ORIGINAL: Terminus

And the 75mm GMC halftrack is not an indirect-fire artillery piece, and therefore can't bombard.

Maybe the unit is miss named, and should be the "2nd Provisional SPM Brigade"?
The device 75mm GMC halftrack maybe should be classified as a tank destroyer?

2nd Provisional SPM Brigade

The GMC M3 was the most widely-deployed tank destroyer

"Confronted with an impending war with Japan, 75 GMC M3's and T12's, termed "Self-Propelled Mount" (SPM) halftracks, were shipped to the Philippine Islands in September 1941 to form the (2nd) Provisional SPM Brigade. These vehicles saw action during the Japanese invasion of the Philippines, and some were later captured by the Japanese and used against U.S. forces in 1944.[5]"

source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_GMC

Noted for clarifying name change in patch. Thanks Pad. (Name change will probably be made in Patch #2)

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Well....it sure aint infantry...and it would be a stretch to call it amored...maybe it should be an AT unit.

And there's no such thing in AE. It's either Armored or Artillery.

Pretend I didn't read the manual. [;)]

Then considering it is half-tracked, has some armor and has AP rounds, it should probably be classified as armor. I am not sure it is any less like armor than the Jap tankettes.

Are there any armored car units...surely they are armor.

[Fred98]

The name of the unit is "artillery"

The photo shows an artillery unit.

The icon is artillery.

Ergo: it is an artillery unit.

If it not an artillery unit then the game is flawed.

How many other units have this flaw?

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