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RE: I can't see the Japanese ships anymore in combat

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before i try and install 1.804 comp, can I install just that patch to a different directory/folder and try it?
It doesn't make any sense, Admiral. Were we better than the Japanese or just luckier?

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RE: I can't see the Japanese ships anymore in combat

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Do you have a stable installation of regular (non-mod) WITP? If so, you might try it... if not, start over.
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Ok, all the way up from 1.21 to 1.3 to 1.4 to 1.5 and to 1.6 all is well. I am afraid to load 1.804 comp now....
I even downloaded the patch 2 times and saved it to 2 different locations.
A bit gunshy at this point....

Yeah installing all those intermediate patches might be the problem. I wouldn't install them. I would jsut install the original media and then 1.8.0.4 comp and then 1.8.0.6 incremental.

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RE: I can't see the Japanese ships anymore in combat

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Ok, all the way up from 1.21 to 1.3 to 1.4 to 1.5 and to 1.6 all is well. I am afraid to load 1.804 comp now....
I even downloaded the patch 2 times and saved it to 2 different locations.
A bit gunshy at this point....


Ecchh... don't do it this way... just go from original to 1.804 comprehensive... then 1.806....

i'm with Joe - trying to install each and every patch is probably going to cause problems.
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RE: I can't see the Japanese ships anymore in combat

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Do you have a stable installation of regular (non-mod) WITP? If so, you might try it... if not, start over.
Yes, that is what I am installing, vanilla original recipe witp version 1.21.
That works , what does not appear to work is when I go from 1.21 to 1.804 comprehensive and the glitch happens.
I only install those two(1.21 and 1.804 nothing else) and I have the problem of not seeing the jap ships.
The reason I tried using all of the patches(1.3,1.4 etc) is to see if this issue appears and so far it does not appear UNTIL I install that 1.804 patch.
It doesn't make any sense, Admiral. Were we better than the Japanese or just luckier?

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Do you have a stable installation of regular (non-mod) WITP? If so, you might try it... if not, start over.
Yes, that is what I am installing, vanilla original recipe witp version 1.21.
That works , what does not appear to work is when I go from 1.21 to 1.804 comprehensive and the glitch happens.
I only install those two(1.21 and 1.804 nothing else) and I have the problem of not seeing the jap ships.
The reason I tried using all of the patches(1.3,1.4 etc) is to see if this issue appears and so far it does not appear UNTIL I install that 1.804 patch.
Sounds like you have a corrupted download of the 1.804 download.

Try again - and make sure you have the COMPREHENSIVE download (it is pretty large).

i installed using this method a few months ago (1.21 - 1.804 Comp - then 1.806 rev) and it should work just fine.
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I'll try downloading it one more time and hope it works.
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I tried re-downloading the 1.804 patch and for whatever reason that patch is the one causing my headache. I updated my video drivers and that didnt help.
I guess I will just have to run the game with 1.6 patch and live with it until AE comes out.
I hope I can still play AE without having latest patch , otherwise I sadly have to say I cannot play in anymore reindeer games.[:(]
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Update!! The problem disappeared after I did a fresh install of Windows!!
Thanks to all who tried to help me.[&o]
Back to the action!!![&o][&o]
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All's well that ends well - glad you finally recovered!
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All's well that ends well - glad you finally recovered!
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Yes, although iirc, there was something about (maybe) recently installing Xp Service Pack 3 recently that is disturbing... if that is the case, we may have to be on the lookout for more problems like this.

i suspect that another person's suggestion that that CODEC was screwed up by something Windows did/installed might be the underlying problem.
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All's well that ends well - glad you finally recovered!
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Yes, although iirc, there was something about (maybe) recently installing Xp Service Pack 3 recently that is disturbing... if that is the case, we may have to be on the lookout for more problems like this.

i suspect that another person's suggestion that that CODEC was screwed up by something Windows did/installed might be the underlying problem.
Thanks.[:)]
For the record , though I have re-installed Windows XP Home with Service pack 2, I have not installed Service pack 3 this time around as I did earlier about the same time i started seeing this strange issue and my PC seemed VERY sluggish.
I am not implying that service pack 3 was the problem but the coincidence is there.
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So you're not the only one with this problem!  Since XP SP3, I've had the exact same "arrow issue".  After more WITP reinstalls than I can explain... both mod'd and unmod'd... the arrows persevere.  I have not tried a reinstall of XP or a roll-back to SP2.  Did you ever find a fix, Gem35... other than not updating to SP3?  Thanks much for any suggestion!

I just hope that the Devs make AE "arrow free".
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It's a memory issue; I turn off all extraneous programs before watching the replay now, otherwise I have the same thing. I guess I have to dig up some more RAM now.....
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It's a memory issue; I turn off all extraneous programs before watching the replay now, otherwise I have the same thing. I guess I have to dig up some more RAM now.....
i strongly recommend that
1) always run the replay from a fresh boot and
2) never have anything else running in the background unless it is absolutely necessary.

This will help avoid replay bug, as well as other problems like this.

i had one WITP problem that i could reproduce consistently, but the troubleshooters never could... the problem was solved when i disabled the screensaver i had...[8|] [:D]

EDIT: turned out the screensaver was a memory hog.
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It's NOT a memory issue, my machine has more RAM(4GB) and an E6600 overclocked to 3.0 ghz along with a 3870 video card which shreds any recommended WitP requirements. I am a PC geek who builds and "plays with" PC hardware. I know what I am doing.
It either was a spyware issue which perhaps "ate" up all of my RAM or a compatability issue with  XP Service pack 3.(some motherboards do not like service pack 3 for some reason)
The only fix was re-installing windows and problem disappeared.
I am now running Vista Home premium 64-bit without ANY issues so far.
Sorry you are having problems RRS.
It is not fun, I empathize with you my friend.[:)]
 
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I've seen those image placeholders, but only when playing witp via VMWare Fusion on my mac. Is it a memory issue? I'm only allocating 1GB of ram to the virtual machine, so I wouldn't be surprised in my case.
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It's NOT a memory issue, my machine has more RAM(4GB) and an E6600 overclocked to 3.0 ghz along with a 3870 video card which shreds any recommended WitP requirements. I am a PC geek who builds and "plays with" PC hardware. I know what I am doing.
It either was a spyware issue which perhaps "ate" up all of my RAM or a compatability issue with  XP Service pack 3.(some motherboards do not like service pack 3 for some reason)
The only fix was re-installing windows and problem disappeared.
I am now running Vista Home premium 64-bit without ANY issues so far.
Sorry you are having problems RRS.
It is not fun, I empathize with you my friend.[:)]
Perhaps, but certain programs (including some screen savers) will soak up ALL available memory, leading to problems... i could see how virus/worm/malware could do this as well, although certainly other effects could be in play.

BTW, i am finding some malware can and will get through the router firewall, Windows firewall, antiviral programs, and various anti-spyware/anti-malware programs... best solution i've found is Malwarebytes AntiMalware (download free)... my brother in-law just installed it on his machine protected by at least 4 different layers of security (including all the things listed above)... Malwarebytes found no less than 20 different infestations (and removed them all).

EDIT: Windows Xp Service Pack 3 has been reported to cause problems with WITP by several reports, although i don't think everyone is affected... i have elected not to install it.
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SP3 might be my problem FWIW. My new macbook has a fresh copy of XP Home with SP3. Only time I've ever had problems with witp, including a few freeze-ups and missing images during combat resolution. ONly run through a couple turns but we'll see.
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RE: I can't see the Japanese ships anymore in combat

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Hi there,

I had the same exact problem :

MS XP SP3
1.806
symptoms:
no japanaes ships/ subs
no ships at all during naval combat
when selecting a scenario, when you read the background and stuff, there should be 3 buttons (confirm scenario, go back to menu..) but it only shows arrows like the arrows for the dissapearing ships.

How did i solve this ?

I reinstalled the game under another folder e.g. c:\bis\Matrix\...

I moved all my art, sound, map etc to this folder by extracting in a loose folder and from there copy paste in my new directory.


What i suspect ...
1. corrupt installer from time to time...
2. problem with izarc my extracter ...?


so this is resolved for me for the time being...

Good luck
Salmandra



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