Recommendations
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Recommendations
Hey all,
Brand new member here, so hello to one and all. I'm trying to narrow down a game purchase here, as I've been jonesing for a good wargame, and I've got it down to a few titles here. Replayability is important, and I don't mind complexity. I like all eras except perhaps for modern. So here's my list, if any of you veterans could take a moment to advise me, I'd greatly appreciate it:
Ageod's American Civil War
GG's War Between the States
The Operational Art of Warfare
Commander: Europe at War
Commander: Napoleon at War
Advanced Tactics: WW II
I'd could probably list more, there are several that catch my eye, but I'll stop now.
Thanks in advance for any advice!!
writerman34
Brand new member here, so hello to one and all. I'm trying to narrow down a game purchase here, as I've been jonesing for a good wargame, and I've got it down to a few titles here. Replayability is important, and I don't mind complexity. I like all eras except perhaps for modern. So here's my list, if any of you veterans could take a moment to advise me, I'd greatly appreciate it:
Ageod's American Civil War
GG's War Between the States
The Operational Art of Warfare
Commander: Europe at War
Commander: Napoleon at War
Advanced Tactics: WW II
I'd could probably list more, there are several that catch my eye, but I'll stop now.
Thanks in advance for any advice!!
writerman34
- NefariousKoel
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RE: Recommendations
I'd say TOAW is a great all-around wargame. It covers a wide variety of conflicts and user-created scenarios are in abundance. You'll be moving a lot of counters around hexes which some love and some don't.
I also have Ageod's ACW and I recommend it. The game system, itself, is a work of art. Like the Airborne Assault serie's innovation, it has that new car smell. Replayability isn't so hot scenario-wise but the AI hasn't played the same in different games for me.
I've not tried the other four. They all seem to have their good points, but I think they're less detailed, except maybe Advanced Tactics?
I also have Ageod's ACW and I recommend it. The game system, itself, is a work of art. Like the Airborne Assault serie's innovation, it has that new car smell. Replayability isn't so hot scenario-wise but the AI hasn't played the same in different games for me.
I've not tried the other four. They all seem to have their good points, but I think they're less detailed, except maybe Advanced Tactics?
RE: Recommendations
ORIGINAL: writerman34
Replayability is important, and I don't mind complexity.
Ageod's American Civil War
GG's War Between the States
The Operational Art of Warfare
Commander: Europe at War
Commander: Napoleon at War
Advanced Tactics: WW II
Just so you can make an informed decision : there's a demo available for Commander : Europe at War which will also give you a good idea on how Commander : Napoleon at War should be like. Advanced Tactics is the successor to Peoples Tactics which is still freely available on the 'Net and which gives a good impression on general gameplay.
Ageod's ACW also has a demo - happened to have the url handy : http://ageoddl.telechargement.fr/latest/AACW_Demo.zip
Finally : here are a couple of reviews :
Review : http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/ageod_civilwar/
Review : http://www.armchairgeneral.com/articles ... e=1&cat=59
Review : http://wroteontheground.blogspot.com/20 ... tates.html
Review : http://jaguarusf.blogspot.com/2008/07/g ... eview.html
Review : http://www.armchairgeneral.com/gary-gri ... review.htm
review : http://jaguarusf.blogspot.com/2006/06/n ... r-iii.html
review : http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/toaw3/
Review : http://jaguarusf.blogspot.com/2007/07/c ... eview.html
Review : http://www.gamesquad.com/index.php?opti ... =8&aid=160
Review : http://www.armchairgeneral.com/articles ... e=1&cat=59
Review : http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/commander_eaw/
Review : http://www.wargamer.com/forums/tm.asp?m ... key=review
Review : http://www.wargamer.com/articles/sc2ww_vs_ceaw/
Review : http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/926/926869p1.html
Review : http://wroteontheground.blogspot.com/20 ... ar-ii.html
Review : http://jaguarusf.blogspot.com/2007/11/a ... eview.html
Review : http://www.armchairgeneral.com/articles ... e=1&cat=17
Review : http://www.gamesquad.com/index.php?opti ... m=&aid=188
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
RE: Recommendations
Hi
I'm with Nefarious Koel
Of that list i would pick this two
- TOAW III for quality and immense replayability (you will need a couple of lives just to play all scenarios before having to actually REPLAY any [;)]).
- And AGEOD AACWas it's my favorite wargame since it was released a year an half ago [&o]
So good it made me love th ACW, an era i did not knew much before
It's not bad at replaybility as the campaings are long and play very different one from another.
And it look much better than TOAW [:'(]
Both are of medium/high complexity.
Regards
I'm with Nefarious Koel
Of that list i would pick this two
- TOAW III for quality and immense replayability (you will need a couple of lives just to play all scenarios before having to actually REPLAY any [;)]).
- And AGEOD AACWas it's my favorite wargame since it was released a year an half ago [&o]
So good it made me love th ACW, an era i did not knew much before
It's not bad at replaybility as the campaings are long and play very different one from another.
And it look much better than TOAW [:'(]
Both are of medium/high complexity.
Regards
RE: Recommendations
If you get Advanced Tactics forget about large multi country games, the game bogs down into a slow ponderous beast after a few turns. Now if you like to read get a few books and read while the computer does its turns.
Favoritism is alive and well here.
RE: Recommendations
I'd go for Commander Europe at War. For a quick strategy slice.
RE: Recommendations
By considering strategic games I'd prefer HoI 2 over the poor designed CEaW.
From above list however I recommend TOAW 3 for versality, depth and replay value.
From above list however I recommend TOAW 3 for versality, depth and replay value.
RE: Recommendations
ORIGINAL: writerman34
Replayability is important, and I don't mind complexity.
From the games on your shortlist I'd recommend TOAW.
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RE: Recommendations
TOAW III is an excellent game, I'd go with that one.
Regards,
Grell
Regards,
Grell
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RE: Recommendations
Well, looks like TOAW III gets several votes. I appreciate the suggestions!!
@sterckxe sweet, i'll have to give those demos a try!!
@Twotribes lol, I've played games like that, you hit the end turn button and grab a book [:)]
writerman34
@sterckxe sweet, i'll have to give those demos a try!!
@Twotribes lol, I've played games like that, you hit the end turn button and grab a book [:)]
writerman34
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RE: Recommendations
Welcome aboard, writerman!
The only game from your list that I own is TOAW3. I agree with everyone else that it's a great game.
That being said, I'll try to tempt you with two other excellent games available from Matrix:
1) Guns of August - By far the best(the only?) WWI turn-based game that money can buy.
2) Uncommon Valor - WWII combat via land, sea and(mostly) by air. Very complex, but well worth the effort to learn. Lots of reply value and the PBEM is a blast!
I was also going to recommend "War in the Pacific", but figured that you may actually have a life...in which case you wouldn't have the time to play it! [:D]
The only game from your list that I own is TOAW3. I agree with everyone else that it's a great game.
That being said, I'll try to tempt you with two other excellent games available from Matrix:
1) Guns of August - By far the best(the only?) WWI turn-based game that money can buy.
2) Uncommon Valor - WWII combat via land, sea and(mostly) by air. Very complex, but well worth the effort to learn. Lots of reply value and the PBEM is a blast!
I was also going to recommend "War in the Pacific", but figured that you may actually have a life...in which case you wouldn't have the time to play it! [:D]
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RE: Recommendations
He missed one: demo of The Operational Art of War, Vol 1, which at least looks very much alike the new game. Demo comes with full blown scenario, that covers entire Korean War of 1950's. One game review exclaims that ALONE to be worth of full priced game. I have to disagree though: save feature is disabled.ORIGINAL: writerman34
@sterckxe sweet, i'll have to give those demos a try!!
Also take a look at Steel Panthers World at War. It's real classic, and doesn't cost you anything.
You know what they say, don't you? About how us MechWarriors are the modern knights, how warfare has become civilized now that we have to abide by conventions and rules of war. Don't believe it.
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RE: Recommendations
ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
He missed one: demo of The Operational Art of War, Vol 1, which at least looks very much alike the new game.
Yeah, but just try to find that demo on the 'Net these days ... [:(]
Should have saved it back then, but when I got the TOAW box I guess I must have deleted it.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
RE: Recommendations
http://www.download.com/The-Operational ... 21530.htmlORIGINAL: sterckxe
ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
He missed one: demo of The Operational Art of War, Vol 1, which at least looks very much alike the new game.
Yeah, but just try to find that demo on the 'Net these days ... [:(]
Google is your friend [;)]
You know what they say, don't you? About how us MechWarriors are the modern knights, how warfare has become civilized now that we have to abide by conventions and rules of war. Don't believe it.
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MekWars
RE: Recommendations
TOAW I demo should be still available on the net or was at least some time ago. Used it as reference before I ordered my copy of TOAW 3. The successor is more polished though.
I also own a demo of John Tiller's West Front on my original Battle of Britain CD. No clue why Matrix didn't use those trials to promote their remastered versions.
I also own a demo of John Tiller's West Front on my original Battle of Britain CD. No clue why Matrix didn't use those trials to promote their remastered versions.
RE: Recommendations
ORIGINAL: Lützow
I also own a demo of John Tiller's West Front on my original Battle of Britain CD. No clue why Matrix didn't use those trials to promote their remastered versions.
That´s where I got a TOAW1 demo, too - though if I remember correctly, that demo was only good for the first ten turns of the scenario.
RE: Recommendations
ORIGINAL: Slick Wilhelm
I was also going to recommend "War in the Pacific", but figured that you may actually have a life...in which case you wouldn't have the time to play it! [:D]
Actually WitP also offers some smaller, not that time consuming scenarios and for Marianas I can finish setup in about 20 min. I'd even play Grand Campaign before bothering with FITE which is, in my opinion, a real micromanagement hell.
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RE: Recommendations
Downloaded the CEAW demo. I like, I like! Will have to check out the Operational demo as well. How does Commander: Napoleon at War compare with CEAW?
Another question that came to mind was how these are at pbem, or multiplayer?
writerman34
Another question that came to mind was how these are at pbem, or multiplayer?
writerman34
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RE: Recommendations
Wow, just installed Ageod's American Civil War demo, that's pretty sweet!