Name This AE...116
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Now, I know I've seen this one before!
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RE: Name This AE...116
does seem familiar......maybe,
USS Wasp (forground), Saratoga and Enterprise 12Aug 1942
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USS Wasp (forground), Saratoga and Enterprise 12Aug 1942
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F-4F Wildcat on the deck.
And Oerlikon 20mm FLAK guns.
And Oerlikon 20mm FLAK guns.
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'When in doubt...attack!'
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Pilots in their planes [:'(]
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The Pacific Ocean?
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Cloudy Sky?
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Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
Number eight.
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ORIGINAL: scott1964
Pilots in their planes [:'(]
Actually there isn't a pilot in the plane.
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The island does look like the Wasp. The carrier in the middle is a Lexington class, which means it has to be the Saratoga. I think Nik is right.
That F4F must be on CAP stand by, planes rarely sit on the deck with the wings unfolded. My first thought was that it was an F4F-3, which didn't have folding wings, but they were out of front line fleet service by August 42.
Bill
That F4F must be on CAP stand by, planes rarely sit on the deck with the wings unfolded. My first thought was that it was an F4F-3, which didn't have folding wings, but they were out of front line fleet service by August 42.
Bill
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RE: Name This AE...116
Uss Wasp 12th Aug 1942 with Saratoga and Enterprise beyond. Nikademus is right.
MJT
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RE: Name This AE...116
I agree, it is rear viev of island (superstructure) USS Wasp CV-7. Armaments on photo: quads 1.1"/75 (28 mm) cannons and 20 mm/70 (0.79") Oerlikons. Wildcat? I think, probably it is F4F3 version. [:)]ORIGINAL: langleyCV1
Uss Wasp 12th Aug 1942 with Saratoga and Enterprise beyond. Nikademus is right.
MJT
Some info of carrier:
Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships: USS Wasp VIII (CV-7)
USS Wasp CV-7 Web Port
USS Wasp CV-7 Martime Quest site
Some info of Air Groups on Wasp
Wasp Air Group
Operation Bovery - Wasp and Malta convoys - article
Defence of Malta
Photo album:
NavSource Online: Aircraft Carrier Photo Archive: USS Wasp (CV-7)
War Damage Report: USS Wasp - pdf file
U.S.S. Wasp (CV-7), Torpedo damage - South Pacific, September 15, 1942 (Lost in action)
Some info of cannons:
1.1"/75 (28 mm) Mark 1 and Mark 2
20 mm/70 (0.79") Marks 2, 3 & 4
Some info of F4F Wildcat
The Grumman F4F Wildcat - technical data
Grumman F4F Wildcat - data in tables
Grumman F4F Martlet (Grumman F4F Wildcat) - FAA service
Photo gallery F4F
Grumman F4F "Wildcat" Fighters - Department of the Navy - Naval Historical Center
Rod Lewis's Grumman F4F-3 Wildcat - cool color photos
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OK dumb question. How do you know it's Aug 12 1942 from any way other than finding the photo online? Unless you guys are totally insane of course . . .
Isn't google a bit of a cheat?
Isn't google a bit of a cheat?
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Something about that picture says the IJN is going to get its ass kicked. Everything looks so well organized, competent and professional. The paint is perfect. The arrestor cables are perfect. The formation is perfect. The guns are all arrayed perfectly.
There had to be more than a few in the Japanese high command who understood they had made a serious error.
There had to be more than a few in the Japanese high command who understood they had made a serious error.
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Something about that picture says the IJN is going to get its ass kicked. Everything looks so well organized, competent and professional. The paint is perfect. The arrestor cables are perfect. The formation is perfect. The guns are all arrayed perfectly.
There had to be more than a few in the Japanese high command who understood they had made a serious error.
Also, when you look at the AAA suite, the ship is still carrying a number of 1.1" Pom-Poms (early war and phased out over time), but there are also a considerable number of 20mm Oerlikons on the ship (AAA increased over time). So you can infer that the pic is from early in the war, but after the ship had time for some of its AAA upgrades.
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OK dumb question. How do you know it's Aug 12 1942 from any way other than finding the photo online? Unless you guys are totally insane of course . . .
Isn't google a bit of a cheat?
the photo is in Lundstrom Vol II. Thats where i'd seen it before. Caption gave the date.
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And plenty of people around here use the "Google Historian" approach anyway...
We are all dreams of the Giant Space Butterfly.
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USS Wasp (forground), Saratoga and Enterprise 12Aug 1942, it is[:)]
Number eight(8), it is[:)]
20mm Oerlikons, it is[:)]
1.1 inch Quad mount, it is[:)]
F4F, it is[:)]
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Tillman, Wildcat,p.70 notes that at this time the planes on these three CV's were F4F-4's.
This is a well known picture but a favorate of mine.
Number eight(8), it is[:)]
20mm Oerlikons, it is[:)]
1.1 inch Quad mount, it is[:)]
F4F, it is[:)]
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Tillman, Wildcat,p.70 notes that at this time the planes on these three CV's were F4F-4's.
This is a well known picture but a favorate of mine.
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Something about that picture says the IJN is going to get its ass kicked. Everything looks so well organized, competent and professional. The paint is perfect. The arrestor cables are perfect. The formation is perfect. The guns are all arrayed perfectly.
There had to be more than a few in the Japanese high command who understood they had made a serious error.
Though the Wasp didn't have long to live. She was sunk on Sept 15. The sinking was probably the most successful Japanese submarine attack of the war. A spread of 6 torpedoes from the I-19, 3 hit the Wasp, one the USS O'Brien, and a 5th the North Carolina. the North Carolina was hit at extreme range, she was on the other side of the formation.
In the 1950s, my father had a secretary who's brother was MIA and assumed dead. He was aboard the Wasp and his duty station was near where one of the torpedoes hit.
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