Can anybody confirm DMS are minesweeping in CHS?

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Can anybody confirm DMS are minesweeping in CHS?

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I just ran 2 turns (4 days) of "combat tests" in my PBEM, and I don't DMS are actually sweeping mines. I got the message when they "found" the minefield. But no messages for the sweep, and even patrolling as minesweeper TF for the next two days did NOT produce any "sweeping-widening" messages.

It's actually scen 156 (not sure it would make any difference).

But can anybody confirm if DMS actually sweep mines in their CHS games?

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ORIGINAL: Feinder

I just ran 2 turns (4 days) of "combat tests" in my PBEM, and I don't DMS are actually sweeping mines. I got the message when they "found" the minefield. But no messages for the sweep, and even patrolling as minesweeper TF for the next two days did NOT produce any "sweeping-widening" messages.

It's actually scen 156 (not sure it would make any difference).

But can anybody confirm if DMS actually sweep mines in their CHS games?

Thanks,
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iirc - some DMS's visited a mine infested port recently in our CHS game, and the mines vanished - so i think they work.
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i think not all relevant events show up in the replay... we also recently took back an unoccupied base, and it never showed up on the replay, nor in the OPS report... [:(]
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In RHS I noticed that I needed to move DMS out of a base with retirement allowed in order to see the minesweeping message in the replay once the vessels returned to the base hex.
I can't say they dont sweep if not sent out though, I just didn't see any messages.
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Erm, why wouldn't they be sweeping? The functionality is in the ship type, not in any sort of device it carries, and CHS or RHS haven't changed those.
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CHS 1.x game in late '44. CHS 2.x game in mid-'43. In both of those games I only use DMS as part of bombardment TFs but they definitely clear mines in both games. Not every time I use them - maybe 4 out of every 5 tries.

It's been a while since I've used them in a dedicated minesweeping TF. Though like T said, I don't know why they wouldn't.

I haven't tested it but my impression has been that the smaller the minefield, the harder it is to clear it with MSWs (and presumably DMS as well). I suspect you're either trying to sweep a very small field, and/or just getting bad die rolls.
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I was expecting to get the "detected...  sweeping...  widening..." messages.  Didn't see them, even tho the TF sat there for 4 days.
 
That's fine, as long as folks seem to think they work.  I was just surprised at no messages.  I would agreed, I can't imagine why they wouldn't work in CHS, but we've seen some odd foilbles that have cropped up compared to Stock.
 
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I was expecting to get the "detected... sweeping... widening..." messages. Didn't see them, even tho the TF sat there for 4 days.

That's fine, as long as folks seem to think they work. I was just surprised at no messages. I would agreed, I can't imagine why they wouldn't work in CHS, but we've seen some odd foilbles that have cropped up compared to Stock.

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I perhaps should have been more specific. I do get those "detected... sweeping... widening..." messages with DMS when they're in bombardment TFs. At least most the time. However no recent experience with DMS in dedicated minesweeping TFs.
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ORIGINAL: ctangus

CHS 1.x game in late '44. CHS 2.x game in mid-'43. In both of those games I only use DMS as part of bombardment TFs but they definitely clear mines in both games. Not every time I use them - maybe 4 out of every 5 tries.

It's been a while since I've used them in a dedicated minesweeping TF. Though like T said, I don't know why they wouldn't.

I haven't tested it but my impression has been that the smaller the minefield, the harder it is to clear it with MSWs (and presumably DMS as well). I suspect you're either trying to sweep a very small field, and/or just getting bad die rolls.

The minefield Feinder is talking about is NOT a small field. [:D]
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ORIGINAL: ctangus
ORIGINAL: Feinder

I was expecting to get the "detected... sweeping... widening..." messages. Didn't see them, even tho the TF sat there for 4 days.

That's fine, as long as folks seem to think they work. I was just surprised at no messages. I would agreed, I can't imagine why they wouldn't work in CHS, but we've seen some odd foilbles that have cropped up compared to Stock.

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I perhaps should have been more specific. I do get those "detected... sweeping... widening..." messages with DMS when they're in bombardment TFs. At least most the time. However no recent experience with DMS in dedicated minesweeping TFs.


We got this in CHS recently (dedicated MSW TF):
TF 1077 encounters mine field at Midway Island (97,63)
Allied Ships
DMS Wasmuth
DMS Chandler
DMS Perry
DMS Dorsey
DMS Lamberton
DMS Boggs

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this (apparently) cleared the Minefield in a turn or so, iirc.

i don't recall if there were MSW messages scrolling - i will say that we DO see them at least occasionally in dedicated MSW TFs
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