Is this worth buying now?
Moderators: Jason Petho, Peter Fisla, asiaticus, dogovich
Is this worth buying now?
May seem a blunt question, but I used to own these as Talonsoft games donkeys years ago, and have noticed they've been re-released but there seems to be a lot of correspondence regarding bugs and so on. Does this game now work well or are there still problems?
Many thanks
Many thanks
Noakesy
RE: Is this worth buying now?
Game is working fine
There are some bugs but they are not game breakers and most of them will be addressed in next patch
There are some bugs but they are not game breakers and most of them will be addressed in next patch
RE: Is this worth buying now?
ORIGINAL: Arkady
Game is working fine
There are some bugs but they are not game breakers and most of them will be addressed in next patch
Thanks - and can you play games and campaigns both hot seat, pbem and against the AI? Even though I moved on to SSG games I used to enjoy these battles (and some of the bigger ones, especially Typhoon which used to be my favourite).
Noakesy
RE: Is this worth buying now?
only stand alone scenarios can be played against human (Hot seat, PBEM and online)
campaigns are AI only
campaigns are AI only
- DoubleDeuce
- Posts: 1235
- Joined: Fri Jun 23, 2000 8:00 am
- Location: Crossville, TN
- Contact:
RE: Is this worth buying now?
I took the plunge and got my copy yesterday. I have the originals and used to play them all the time. For a while I moved on to other games but have been keeping an eye on these updated versions.
- Jason Petho
- Posts: 16672
- Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:31 am
- Location: Terrace, BC, Canada
- Contact:
RE: Is this worth buying now?
ORIGINAL: Double Deuce
I took the plunge and got my copy yesterday. I have the originals and used to play them all the time. For a while I moved on to other games but have been keeping an eye on these updated versions.
Thanks for purchasing!
Ensure you are up to date with the various updates and patches.
Jason Petho
RE: Is this worth buying now?
Simply answer yes.
I owned EFII and RS and loved them but bailed out in frustration after too many crashes.
The Matrix version hasn't crashed once. It is great fun and excellent support ensuring the few, minor bugs are dealt with. Also new scenarios and campaigns are being developed.
My only concern was that I might have been looking back at the game with rose-tinted spectacles or that the game would be dated. Neither has happened; I am getting more pleasure from this game than any that I have bought in a long time and I expect it to be on my harddrive for many years to come.
Given that we all take punts on new wargames hoping that they will suit us, Matrix have offered those of us familar with the originals a guaranteed value for money purchase. I would be interested to know how people who have come to this game without knowledge of the originals find it?
I owned EFII and RS and loved them but bailed out in frustration after too many crashes.
The Matrix version hasn't crashed once. It is great fun and excellent support ensuring the few, minor bugs are dealt with. Also new scenarios and campaigns are being developed.
My only concern was that I might have been looking back at the game with rose-tinted spectacles or that the game would be dated. Neither has happened; I am getting more pleasure from this game than any that I have bought in a long time and I expect it to be on my harddrive for many years to come.
Given that we all take punts on new wargames hoping that they will suit us, Matrix have offered those of us familar with the originals a guaranteed value for money purchase. I would be interested to know how people who have come to this game without knowledge of the originals find it?
- Panzer Capta
- Posts: 254
- Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2000 10:00 am
- Location: Bedford, NH, USA
RE: Is this worth buying now?
Speaking of the old versions, I always thought that the cover of the EFII box was the best of all games i have ever seen....the Darth Vader looking german soldier still gives me the creeps. Jason, is it possible to change the first EF screen (where one selects gameplay) in JTCS EF Module to the black silhouetted German soldier?
- Jason Petho
- Posts: 16672
- Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:31 am
- Location: Terrace, BC, Canada
- Contact:
RE: Is this worth buying now?
ORIGINAL: Panzer Captain
Speaking of the old versions, I always thought that the cover of the EFII box was the best of all games i have ever seen....the Darth Vader looking german soldier still gives me the creeps. Jason, is it possible to change the first EF screen (where one selects gameplay) in JTCS EF Module to the black silhouetted German soldier?
I would imagine it could be added.
Jason Petho
RE: Is this worth buying now?
ORIGINAL: Double Deuce
I took the plunge and got my copy yesterday. I have the originals and used to play them all the time. For a while I moved on to other games but have been keeping an eye on these updated versions.
Mike who lured you into taking the plunge?
Artur.
"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.", Sun Tzu
- DoubleDeuce
- Posts: 1235
- Joined: Fri Jun 23, 2000 8:00 am
- Location: Crossville, TN
- Contact:
RE: Is this worth buying now?
Some dude from Hungary. [:D]ORIGINAL: sztartur
Mike who lured you into taking the plunge?
I always like this game it just kind of slipped to the back burner over time. Now, with some of the changes being made and having re-evaluated the depth of the Editor this might be a good engine for some future projects. [;)]
RE: Is this worth buying now?
Thanks for the responses everyone - has anything actually changed from the original (I see mention re the editor but I was never much of one to make my own games anyway). My eldest son is now 13 and I'm thinking we could hotseat the game for a bit of fun. Pity the LCGs are still strictly against the AI as they used to be the only games I'd play on this.
Noakesy
- Jason Petho
- Posts: 16672
- Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:31 am
- Location: Terrace, BC, Canada
- Contact:
RE: Is this worth buying now?
ORIGINAL: Noakesy
Thanks for the responses everyone - has anything actually changed from the original (I see mention re the editor but I was never much of one to make my own games anyway). My eldest son is now 13 and I'm thinking we could hotseat the game for a bit of fun. Pity the LCGs are still strictly against the AI as they used to be the only games I'd play on this.
Pity you limited yourself to just playing the LCG's.
This game truly shines when you are playing a human opponent, especially online or hotseat!
Jason Petho
- Jason Petho
- Posts: 16672
- Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:31 am
- Location: Terrace, BC, Canada
- Contact:
RE: Is this worth buying now?
ORIGINAL: Noakesy
Thanks for the responses everyone - has anything actually changed from the original (I see mention re the editor but I was never much of one to make my own games anyway).
Here is an intro to the list of changes:
tm.asp?m=1476058
Jason Petho
RE: Is this worth buying now?
Pity you limited yourself to just playing the LCG's.
This game truly shines when you are playing a human opponent, especially online or hotseat!
Jason Petho
Thanks, I imagine I'll give it a go, and then play it against others. I enjoyed the LCGs, especially the Typhoon one. Will be buying this one now I reckon, thanks for all the comments.
Thanks
Noakesy
- 105mm Howitzer
- Posts: 396
- Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:13 am
- Location: Montreal, Quebec
RE: Is this worth buying now?
[X(]I've owned both a Talonsoft released version called Europe Aflame, that shipped with East Front, West Front, and Sealion. About 2 years ago, East Front ( badly scratched ) finally refused to install on my new pc, had to scrap it. I saw Matrix finally releasing the campaign series ( was getting fed up with the usual " in progress" status report) I just purchased it today, and soon, panzers shall roll East once again....
Incidentally, one of the German avatars ( chap looking to his right, dressed in his going out uniform) looks like the spitting image of my brother-in-law. ( the irony being, he's Polish) I showed him the pic, he freaked out, wondered if I took his picture and modified it. Of course he denies having German descendents that fought in the war. ( riiiight.)[X(]
Incidentally, one of the German avatars ( chap looking to his right, dressed in his going out uniform) looks like the spitting image of my brother-in-law. ( the irony being, he's Polish) I showed him the pic, he freaked out, wondered if I took his picture and modified it. Of course he denies having German descendents that fought in the war. ( riiiight.)[X(]
"Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum" - Publius Renatus, 390 A.D.
RE: Is this worth buying now?
A friend of mine is polish and her father was pressed into the Axis forces at Normandy - they fired over the heads of allies as they raced up the beach, but sadly the allies weren't to know that once they were into the defences.
Noakesy
- 105mm Howitzer
- Posts: 396
- Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:13 am
- Location: Montreal, Quebec
RE: Is this worth buying now?
Hey, I'm not complaining. My uncles were involved inthe "wrong" side in the last big one . ( lesee, one in Africa, one in Greece, another in Yugoslavia, and th elucky one was parked on the coast in Sardinia. Oh yeah, and Dad's unit got disbanded in 1943. [8|]
Just a total coicidence seeing one's in-laws in a wargame. Got a few chuckles, too..
Just a total coicidence seeing one's in-laws in a wargame. Got a few chuckles, too..
"Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum" - Publius Renatus, 390 A.D.
RE: Is this worth buying now?
Ok, taken the plunge and bought the game, and loaded up the first patch. Did someone say there's a temporary patch too? If so I've a couple of questions:
1. Is it very important, and if so what does it do?
2. Presumably this means that when the next 'official' patch comes out I'll have to remove the temporary one?
1. Is it very important, and if so what does it do?
2. Presumably this means that when the next 'official' patch comes out I'll have to remove the temporary one?
Noakesy