Spitfires, totally useless or what?

[anarchyintheuk]

I was born in NJ, even I hate the iggles. I'll put you down for blunt force trauma. [;)]

No, Spitfires are not totatlly useless. (No use of sarcasm intended).

[ny59giants]

A PERFECT Sunday in the fall is the Cowgirls loss and a NY Giants win. [:D][:D]

Sorry, but I grew up in the late 60's and 70's with Dallas as "America's Team."  Still hate them more than any sports team and 40 years isn't going to change that fact. [8D]

When it comes to the Beagles, I just want to know how many Super Bowls they have won?? [;)]

[Dili]

2 May 1943
 
 
Seafire: FAA lost more than 50 due to op losses in 5 days of Salerno 1943  just because it was too fragile be a carrier aircraft.

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: Dili

2 May 1943


Seafire: FAA lost more than 50 due to op losses in 5 days of Salerno 1943 just because it was too fragile be a carrier aircraft.

What's that got to do with Spitfires, Zeros and Darwin?[&:]

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: Dili

2 May 1943


Seafire: FAA lost more than 50 due to op losses in 5 days of Salerno 1943 just because it was too fragile be a carrier aircraft.

IIRC most of those were on board HMS Unicorn which was not intended as an operational carrier

[Terminus]

Plenty of Seafire ops losses during the FAA attacks on the Sumatra oilfields, but that's still irrelevant to the discussion of Spitfires vs. Zeros.

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: Dili

The Spits were trounced by Zeros over Darwin...

Spitfire losses over Northern Oz were 29 destroyed from all causes for 22 Japanese planes destroyed, whilst it's not a stellar achievement neither is it trounced.

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: Dixie

ORIGINAL: Dili

The Spits were trounced by Zeros over Darwin...

Spitfire losses over Northern Oz were 29 destroyed from all causes (including mechanical failures and accidents) for 22 Japanese planes destroyed, whilst it's not a stellar achievement neither is it trounced.

Certainly no trouncing but again, when was this?

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: Dixie

ORIGINAL: Dili

The Spits were trounced by Zeros over Darwin...

Spitfire losses over Northern Oz were 29 destroyed from all causes (including mechanical failures and accidents) for 22 Japanese planes destroyed, whilst it's not a stellar achievement neither is it trounced.

Certainly no trouncing but again, when was this?

My original post was wrong (oops [8|]) the 29 was combat losses. The totals are from pacificspitfires.com + another 15 lost to engine/csu failure or fuel starvation.

[Terminus]

29 to 22 is still fairly even.

[Dili]

I said 02 May 43 .(the Seafire comment was not related)
 
 The 22 Jap losses includes bombers and if i am not mistaken a recon aircraft but i am not sure of that last one.

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: Dili

I said 02 May 43 .(the Seafire comment was not related)

The 22 Jap losses includes bombers and if i am not mistaken a recon aircraft but i am not sure of that last one.

The losses do include Jap bombers, which were the primary target of the RAAF at the time. There's no point in shooting down Zeroes and leaving the Betties to unload their bombs over Darwin [;)]
The Spitfire was more than capable of dealing with Japanese fighters, even the old Mk Vs although the Vokes filter caused a big hit on performance.

[Hipper]

were not the Zeros they were shooting at actually oscars !!!

over darwin in early 1943

agree with the comment on the Volkes filters

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: Hipper

were not the Zeros they were shooting at actually oscars !!!

over darwin in early 1943

agree with the comment on the Volkes filters

Not very likely, considering the range. All the "Zeros" claimed by Allied pilots in Burma and India were Oscars.

[bobogoboom]

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I hate the Dallas Cowgirls with a passion. [:@][:@]

You're obviously confused, delirious, have bad taste or suffered blunt force trauma.

I think we can both agree we hate the iggles tho. [:D]

And the 4skins.

[bobogoboom]

ORIGINAL: RUPD3658

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I hate the Dallas Cowgirls with a passion. [:@][:@]

You're obviously confused, delirious, have bad taste or suffered blunt force trauma.

I think we can both agree we hate the iggles tho. [:D]

E-A-G-L-E-S! EAGLES!!!!!![&o]

You dishonor the thread by making pro eagles comments.[:-]

[Dixie]

Pretty much every radial engine fighter with retractable u/c was a Navy Type 0 as far as the Allies were concerned.  Over Darwin they happened to be right [;)]  I think the raids on Northern Oz were exclusively an IJN effort, though I may be wrong.

[bobogoboom]

What model spits were they?

[Terminus]

Mk Vc's...

[bobogoboom]

Did the aussies at darwin ever get the newer models?