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Theres nothing bout it in a manual (or i could not find it).
I would apreciate a correct in depth answer.

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Put a carrier in an Air TF. Put the air unit on a carrier. Make sure it's set to resize. Disband the carrier. Voila! The air unit resized.
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Thank You Mike!
Does it takes a carrier to be disbanded?
Does a supply or port size matters?
How does it calculate things?
I know that ih 63 planes Hiryu will resize its 3 Air groups to 21/21/21 but what if I will put 4 groups of varius sizes with some set to do not resize?

Lots of puzzels....

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I don't think port size or supply matters. If the carrier can disband, the air unit will resize. I resize the small IJN DB and TB units and then fill them up with rookies and set them to train. They're future replacements for KB. I haven't tried to resize KBs planes yet. I may try it when KB goes for some R&R.

You can test it easily. Since the resizing happens immediately, if it's not to your liking, just quit without saving.
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I made a mistake resizing kates for some early japanese CVE .. they upped to 10 planes and i was happy [:D].. then checked the carrier loads and it only carries 7 torpedoes ! eek .. /slaps self head for being a fool [:@].

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Still Puzzled [:(]


Shoho:
Cap 30

starting group: 12F (resize to fit) 9T (dont)
ending group 18 (not 21 as expected) F & 9T

whay they have not resized ?properly? to 21?

HELP!!!
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I just tried disbanding Hiryu into port to see if the groups would resize. They did not.  Am I doing something wrong?
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And another question: Do the air groups resize on some date to have more fighters and fewer Kates as they did in WitP?
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I tried this very thing with Zuiho in Japan at the start of the war and got the same result as the Shoho example.
 
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Still Puzzled [:(]


Shoho:
Cap 30

starting group: 12F (resize to fit) 9T (dont)
ending group 18 (not 21 as expected) F & 9T

whay they have not resized ?properly? to 21?

HELP!!!

Resizing the Shoho and Zuiho air groups will get you 18 fighters and 12 torpedo bombers.
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I just tried disbanding Hiryu into port to see if the groups would resize. They did not.  Am I doing something wrong?

There are 3 possibilities for resizing a unit:

No resize allowed - won't happen
Resize to fit ship - this resizes the unit when on a carrier and you disband the carrier
Change to xx on xx xxx xx - you can't resize this one. It changes to the specified number on the specified date.
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Hey John, it's really good to see you! [:)]
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ORIGINAL: cap_and_gown

I just tried disbanding Hiryu into port to see if the groups would resize. They did not.  Am I doing something wrong?

There are 3 possibilities for resizing a unit:

No resize allowed - won't happen
Resize to fit ship - this resizes the unit when on a carrier and you disband the carrier
Change to xx on xx xxx xx - you can't resize this one. It changes to the specified number on the specified date.

Rezize was allowed. Yet after disbanding, the groups are still the same size. I would love it if I could get Soryu and Hiryu filled up to their capacity.
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I had no problem with 63 cap Soryu IIRC - it is 21/21/21

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That is clear Mike.

However

I want to know if resize max size is hardcoded for air groups or related to nominal cap of a carrier!

Too many unnecessary puzzels here.... not toched by a manual... disapointing...

I love this game!

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ORIGINAL: WITPPL

That is clear Mike.

However

I want to know if resize max size is hardcoded for air groups or related to nominal cap of a carrier!

Too many unnecessary puzzels here.... not toched by a manual... disapointing...

I love this game!

[;)]


Sorry, I don't have a clue about that one. I'd really like to know too.
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Has anyone tried to re-size the Jakes on a CS?? I want to get 24 FPs on board for search (50% would equal 240 degrees of Naval Search for KB).
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Does this work for an Allied CV?  I've got Yorktown with two DB squadrons on board, both with fewer than 10 planes each, and I'd like them to go back to full size (there are replacements available).
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Does this work for an Allied CV?  I've got Yorktown with two DB squadrons on board, both with fewer than 10 planes each, and I'd like them to go back to full size (there are replacements available).

Resize affects the max number of planes in carrier air unit and I think Yourktown is quite maxed out already. I don't think you can circumvent Replacement delay (you can only draw max. 12 planes every 7 days as automatic replacements) by using resize.
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Hey John, it's really good to see you! [:)]

Thanks Mike. It is VERY good to be seen!

Have started working with this monster you guys have put together and am enjoying the immense amount of time, work and detail you guys have put into it!
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