JTCS & W8?

Crossroads · Post by **Crossroads** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:57 am

I am considering building a new computer. Has anyone had a change to experiment whether there's any issues in playing JTCS under Windows 8?

I would think not but then again you never know...

wings7 · Post by **wings7** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:20 am

Personally I would stick with Windows 7, you could always upgrade to Win 8 in the future...enjoy your new computer!

Patrick

Crossroads · Post by **Crossroads** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:30 am

I would need to know which OS version to buy for the new rig though. Would hate to pay M$ twice...

wings7 · Post by **wings7** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:54 am

ORIGINAL: Crossroads

I would need to know which OS version to buy for the new rig though. Would hate to pay M$ twice...

I would purchase the Windows 7 Professional Edition, here is a link that you can use to compare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

Patrick

Crossroads · Post by **Crossroads** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:34 pm

Thanks for the comparison data. I am trying to choose between W7 and W8 though

boatrigm · Post by **boatrigm** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:15 am

I have Windows 8 Developer version build 9200 and it doesn't work. The main game screen is just white even in compatibility mode.
I'm sticking with W7.

-Mike

osiris_slith · Post by **osiris_slith** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:07 am

Clearly time is running out for this game. Matrix really needs to look at a Windowed version because you can hold off on Windows upgrades for only so long...

Crossroads · Post by **Crossroads** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:03 am

Bummer

Oh well, it seems the Windows 8 upgrade would need to be made to Modern Wars before it is released, and hopefully there's enough resources at Matrix to implement changes to JTCS 1.5 as well...

boatrigm · Post by **boatrigm** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:53 pm

Well, maybe the retail version will work...not sure how different my 9200 build is from the soon to be released version.

-Mike

boatrigm · Post by **boatrigm** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:08 am

Tried it with Windows 8 Retail copy and it works!

-Mike

Crossroads · Post by **Crossroads** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:02 am

Well that's good news for sure - thanks Mike!

Jason Petho · Post by **Jason Petho** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:42 pm

Thanks, Mike!

Thank is good news!

Jason Petho

rpwood · Post by **rpwood** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:11 am

Just got a new installer from Tech support. Game installs and works beautifully in WIN 8. Recommended they replace the older installer. Great game!

marcbarker · Post by **marcbarker** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:12 pm

had no issues with a reinstall of CS from 1.0 up all workedI am using W8

Crossroads · Post by **Crossroads** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:02 pm

Are you guys running JTCS as-is?

I have no problems playing a scenario. I have no issues with scenario tools if I have only one window open.

But I noticed if I say have Scen Editor open, then decide to quickly tweak themap with Map Editor, the Map Editor works fine but upon returning to Scen Editor it has become distorted and closing and opening it again is the only option to fix the view.

berto · Post by **berto** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:20 pm

In addition to my primary Windows 7 development system, I have

[*]a dual-boot Windows 7/Windows 8 test system (which, incidentally, also runs a virtual Linux web server -- three systems in one!)
[*]a dual-boot Windows XP/OpenSUSE Linux test system (backup web server under Linux; boot into Windows XP for -- so far unsuccessful -- CS tests)

I must confess that I haven't yet tried running recent CS builds on the Windows 8 test system.

Although other members of the dev team report no problems running recent CS builds on Windows XP, I am unable to run those recent builds on my Windows XP test system.

You may or may not know that Microsoft is finally, no reprieve, pulling the plug on Windows XP support next spring. (Windows XP end of extended support is April 8, 2014. See http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/lifecycle.) This makes iffy future formal, guaranteed support on Windows XP for CS 1.05+, Modern Wars, and all future games in the Campaign Series. Might work, might not, hit or miss -- on Windows XP.

Sorry to break the bad news to you, folks, but there it is. If Microsoft will no longer (extended) support their own obsoleted OS version, how much less can we provide (guaranteed, formal) support on same?

When I recently rebuilt the above Windows XP system, I was unable to access Windows Update for the normal, post-install patching procedure. Instead, I had to hunt down an obscure Microsoft web page with special patching files and procedures. Since then, I discovered a new site, Microsoft Update, where the normal Windows update procedures -- for XP -- have again been made available. But why don't recent builds run on my XP system? Can't really say. Must be an XP patch or driver issue. (And wouldn't you know it, the error message on failed game launch is cryptic and basically useless for diagnostic purposes.)

The point being: If the Campaign Series Lead Programmer can't (yet) run new CS builds on his Windows XP test system, how can he provide adequate support for CS on XP? (Again, this appears to be an XP patching/support issue, not an issue with the builds themselves, since other dev team members report successful use on older, not-recently-rebuilt XP systems.)

Of course, Campaign Series 1.04 and before will continue to run just fine on Windows XP, 7 & 8.

Bottom line, for future updates and games in the Campaign Series:

[*]Windows XP -- questionable support; the game may or may not run, will try to make it work for me personally (so that I can support it), but no guarantees
[*]Windows 7 -- fully supported
[*]Windows 8 -- fully supported
[*]future Windows versions -- fully supported

Oh, and if anybody is wondering:

[*]Linux -- under WINE, maybe (as a Linux devoteee, I will spend some time to addressing the compatibility issue, but it's far from highest priority)
[*]Mac OS X -- nope! [:'(]
[*]iOS, Android, etc. -- fat chance! [:D]

junk2drive · Post by **junk2drive** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:33 am

Worked for me a while back on Ubuntu with Wine. The highlights around units turned to blocks of color. I suspect the 8 bit graphics.

Never any problems with XP SP3 or 8 but I don't use the editors.

Crossroads · Post by **Crossroads** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:44 am

I had some graphics issues with W7 64bit that were resolved by the Disable Desktop Composition option alone. I did not need to have XP SP3 mode or anything then.

W8 (I have 64bit version) does not have the same option in the property info box. I tried some combinations but they did not seem to do the trick. Perhaps one of you W8 guys could fire up the Map Editor and Scenario Editor simultaneously, and see if you have the same issues.

As long as I have only one window open I have no problems. Then when I open the second window it works OK too, but when going back to original window it has become distorted. In W7 redrawing the window was enough, like jumping from 3D normal to 3D zoom-out and back. In W8 I need to close the whole app and open it again.

berto · Post by **berto** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:26 pm

ORIGINAL: berto

Although other members of the dev team report no problems running recent CS builds on Windows XP, I am unable to run those recent builds on my Windows XP test system.

Mystery solved! It so happens that I just needed to install the Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (also its SP1) on that Windows XP system. Doh!

Okay, so now I can run my CS/MW builds on my Windows XP test system. Although that improves prospects for informal support, it still doesn't change my earlier warnings about iffy long-term formal support for running CS/MW on Windows XP.

berto · Post by **berto** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:29 pm

ORIGINAL: berto

You may or may not know that Microsoft is finally, no reprieve, pulling the plug on Windows XP support next spring. (Windows XP end of extended support is April 8, 2014. See http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/lifecycle.) This makes iffy future formal, guaranteed support on Windows XP for CS 1.05+, Modern Wars, and all future games in the Campaign Series. Might work, might not, hit or miss -- on Windows XP.

Sorry to break the bad news to you, folks, but there it is. If Microsoft will no longer (extended) support their own obsoleted OS version, how much less can we provide (guaranteed, formal) support on same?

More warnings about the impending Windows XP End of Life:

Your perilous future on Windows XP

Microsoft warns Windows XP users risk 'zero day forever'

Expect to see lots more articles like these in the next several months.

Although our recent alpha & beta test builds of Modern Wars and the Campaign Series run perfectly fine on Windows XP, it's a good bet that I personally will be pulling my Windows XP box(es) off the Internet come April 2014. And if Windows Update is no longer accessible to patch rebuilt Windows XP systems, a good bet also I'll be retiring my Windows XP system(s) altogether.

Bottom line: After April 2014, you run MW/CS on Windows XP at your own risk, and with no formal, guaranteed support.

You out there, the one running XP! That's you I'm talking about when I say "helpless." When the new models show up for the holidays it's time to go computer shopping.

(There. I've just played my part to help revive flagging new PC sales. [:)])

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